NextGen Gallery update... broke carousel?

[dhrose+ 3]

I updated my NextGen gallery plugin on my Framework site and all my carousel's are broken. The galleries are on the page and the i.d.'s is correct but the galleries don't show anymore? Hmmm... plugin is activated but the pages don't preview the images. 

 

dhrcreative.com

[Blackice 5]

Which version of Nextgen are you using?

[batman 389]

Hi dhrose

You can go to this

http://forum.pagelines.com/topic/28827-dms-plugin-compatibility-check-list/

There are some solutions about Nextgen (one mine and the other form @Blackice)

;)

[dhrose+ 3]

Apparently I've been so focused on dms I wasn't paying attention to the Framework issues... Ha!  I just started upgrading some plugins on my Framework site without reading the news... I was on 1.9.3 and the latest 2.0.11 broke it. I rolled back to the 1.9.3 and it's working again, but that's a little disturbing that something that's that heavily used in Framework could brake big big! Lot of galleries I'm using that on...

 

Thanks. 

[batman 389]

Hi dhorse

I use Nextgen too, and the problem is the plugin in most of the themes, not only Framework. You can see the Nextgen blog and you can see they have a lot of problems. 

;)

[dhrose+ 3]

So has anyone got it to work beyond 1.9.3? And how... Someone mentioned ftp to activate it? I had to do that to replace current version... does that work with the new version? 2.0.11.

[Blackice 5]

I have it working with 2.0.7 on this site http://www.tateworks.com (using pagelines 2.4.4). Its in the sidebar as a widget.

[Blackice 5]

I just did an update to 2.0.11 and everything is working fine.

[batman 389]

I just update too 2.0.11 and all works fine.

[dhrose+ 3]

Hmmm... I did the standard update plugin from the plugins view to 2.0.11. And the carousel stopped working. I put 1.9.3 back in and it started working again? Not sure what the problem is. I have my carousel on the page template set to display the gallery i.d. nothing changed other than the version. Framework 2.4.4

 

On this page and a couple others...

 

http://dhrcreative.com/about-me/

 

http://dhrcreative.com/design/

[Blackice 5]

When I first performed the update from 1.9.3 to 2.0.7:

 

• Flush the cache of any CACHE plugin
• Deactivate the Cache Plugin
• Downloaded the version 2.0.7 from Photocratti
• Unzip download
• FTP it to Web server (wp-content/plugins)
• Overwrite any files it needed (images and albums were not touched)
• Reactivate NextGen Plugin first
• Make any tweeks that were necessary
• Then Re-activated cache plugin

 

That worked fine for me. I was then able today to perform a standard update using ManageWP on the site (to version 2.0.11)

 

Hope this helps.

[dhrose+ 3]

What tweeks did you have to do? I'm assuming you don't mean browser cahe, as I don't have any cache plugins anyway. Frankly I spent a LOT of time getting the correct image sizes for the thumbnails on these carousel's so I'm not to keen on redoing all those settings. I dread changing anything in Wordpress when I get it set the way I want it... Ha!

[Blackice 5]

:D No I was not referring to the browser cache. I did not have to touch any of the images or gallery. I had to correct a CSS issue that my client inserted to the website with out documenting what they had changed. (one of the reason i use managewp is so clients can send me what they changed from the admin dashboard.... another story for another day)

 

If you are worried about making changes, I would wait to you have a green zone. Do a full backup of site and database (I prefer duplicator instead of backup buddy). Do the upgrade. It is not functioning properly rollback. Then submit a trouble ticket to Photocratti.

[Rob 547]

Good advice.

[dhrose+ 3]

It would be nice if it just worked. The Pagelines base Carousel is too important to be breaking on update.

[Rob 547]

First, let me say I've been fixing or trying to fix issues with the PL Carousel in Framework where NextGen is the source for over a year.  That gallery has had issues, not just with PL but with other themes, platforms and systems for a while.  I'm not saying they're at fault or have a bad product. It is simply that it doesn't work 100% with every website, or every system.  A thousand and one variables could impact it, through no fault of NextGen, nor of PageLines. 

 

The problem that is affecting Framework isn't the Carousel. It's the use of NextGen as the source of your thumbnails.  If you switch to Posts, you'll see the carousel works perfectly.

 

More than likely, you simply need to visit their website, download an older version and replace the new one. Another option is to deactivate the plugins other than Nextgen and see what happens to the carousel.

[dhrose+ 3]

I do have it working with an older version. I'm just whining... that I have to fix this stuff when it breaks. I miss the old html days. Sigh. 

[Rob 547]

I used to have HTML dreams, in code.  Eyes close, I'd see <html>... Glad those days are gone!

[trisquelmedia 7]

i send a bug report with this issue but has not yet been solved (v2.0.33) and if not fix it someday. Nothing to do from the side of Pagelines? :-(

[Rob 547]

I'm sure the folks at NextGen are aware of their issues and are working to fix it. 

[trisquelmedia 7]

This is the answer I have given me Next Gen Gallery developers, Pagelines Framework have to make a minor modification to the code.

 

"The PageLines Carousel code may be asking for its information that is not compatible with the current version of NextGEN Gallery. There have been many changes to the underlying code when we moved to the current 2.0.x branch and several older pieces of code may need to be re-factored to use our current plugin framework."

[Rob 547]

Their answer makes perfect sense, but our Carousel is an older technology, and isn't likely to be updated anytime soon.  We do offer a premium plugin that works with both Framework and DMS called Cool Carousel.  You can find it here: http://www.pagelines.com/shop/sections/cool-carousel/

 

I'm not sure there's any other way to resolve this other than to use a different carousel or an earlier version of NextGen.

[dhrose+ 3]

My problem with this is that I spent a lot of time setting up the carousel, creating the galleries and getting the correct scaling for the next-gen. I mean weeks. I have to basically throw out that to redo the basic portfolio site I have. Not sure how easy it is to set up this $24.95 one, but that's a lot of work, and I have to pay for it... Or redo the site in DMS which I started, but then I have to move the whole site, which creates a whole new can of worms... Er, I suppose my love for website building... and wordpress is showing. Ha!

[Rob 547]

You still have the viable option of using the 1.9.x version of NextGen, which still works well with our Carousel, thus removing any chance you'd have to reconstruct your previous work.

 

I understand your frustration, but the Carousel isn't new, by any measure, and when third party companies change their code, we can't upgrade what is essentially an out dated product.  As you know, the Carousel wasn't included in DMS, for this very reason. It's simply not adaptable enough to the newest technology.

 

Unfortunately, technology advances, and all too often (for my tastes, too), it means having to rebuild things far too often. You have my complete sympathies and agreement on that.