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Best Answer Rob , 07 April 2013 - 07:13 PM

I stripped all the coding from the post, and it works fine:  http://www.epicurus....s/test-sb-1/810

 

That leads me to the conclusion that some of the formatting in the post must be incorrect or corrupted.

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#1 gayatriom

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:02 PM

Hi. I am having the hardest time understand what is happening here. 

My sidebar drops down below the content on this page which is accessed form the category pages: 

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but not this page:

 

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which is accessed from the homepage. 

 

I don't know what is going on or why the system finds them different. 

 

I am using chrome. 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:43 PM

Hi,

 

I don't see anything on that page to cause this issue, but I can't inspect it presently due to an odd system glitch on my own machine. 

 

When the layout is affected by something wider than the specified size of an area, it will push corresponding areas down.  So, if your layout editor has let's say a content area of 700px and sidebars at 300px making a total of about 1060px (with margins), and something in either the sidebars or content area is too wide, it will force the sidebar (the most flexible) to move below the content area.

 

I'd look to the affected pages, particularly at the sidebars, to see what's different on those pages. It could be as simple as an image that's wider than the sidebar's allowed width. Keep in mind, there's padding and margins to contend with as well. So in my example of a 300px wide sidebar, you may only get 250px available width.

 

Something seems to be squeezing the sidebars on the affected pages.  Did you by any chance write any CSS affecting widths of the content area on specific posts or pages?



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:47 PM

Hey Rob. 

I've checked all of that. 

That's what I find odd. 

The two pages I posted are both posts. 

With the same layout, same sidebar. 

In fact when i use inspect element in the messed up post, the sidebar drops OUT of the "Dynamic Content"

Isn't that weird?

 

I've checked padding, size, everything. 

I've played with css to see if I made the width on both sides smaller via 'inspect element', if that pops the sidebar back in place - no dice. 

 

I don't understand why this is happening! 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:09 PM

I noticed too, that the sidebar is showing bullet points, which usually indicates some break with proper CSS.  Could there be some CSS recently added that dealt with ul or li under certain circumstances?



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:20 PM

hmm. I checked. nothing. besides my menu items. 

And i just put all my css in css validator and it all checked out. 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:21 PM

i also removed all my widgets and checked. nothing changed! 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:23 PM

I changed the list style for the sidebar widgets to see if that helped, but no change



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:28 PM

Here's an even weirder thing.... when I use Firebug on other sites, I have no problem.  With your affected page, it crashes Firefox as soon as I use Firebug. There's something wrong in that page. 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:29 PM

it's all the post pages that are accessible from the category pages.  not just that post page. and what's odd is that i've done this same installation 3 times. three. 

it's so weird! 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:32 PM

hmm actually. yes. it does seem to be only that page. do u see it anywhere else? 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:42 PM

I just replicated that post. Created a completely new post with that content. Same problem! 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:46 PM

ok. so i deleted all the content from that post page and then checked and all was fine. 
this is the content:

 

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:46 PM

That is weird.  What's in that content? Any code, lists or anything that could be affected by CSS?



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:47 PM

what in this content would cause this?

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:47 PM

just posted it! i looked at it and it looks harmless enough.
i mean we have it on the other pages too. so don't know why this one would go all wonky.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:55 PM

Look what it did with my site:

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:57 PM

nope. deleted it: and this is how it looks

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no video now, but same problem. sorry i'm pushing.
just don't want to give this to client without understanding what's going on.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:58 PM

yeah. but it's not the iframe. it's something else. delete the iframe code and see what it does. stays the same.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:01 PM

I see.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:07 PM

haha. yeah.