Pageline Framework 2.2.5 update slowed down load time and lost the 'snappy' performance of WordPress
Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:22 AM
I have a pretty fast (Intel Xeon E5 3.6Ghz CPU) web server so it is not the server. Besides it has not changed.
Here is BEFORE and AFTER 2.2.5 upgrade. Please note the increase in load time. I suspect "pagelines-compiled-css-1341565397" (106.7KB) in 2.2.5 is the reason for this delay.
Framework 2.1.6 (BEFORE UPGRADE)
Framework 2.2.5 (AFTER UPGRADE)
According to the Pingdom tool, the home page was 373KB (2.1.6) and it has gone to 491KB (2.2.5). And it seems that above mention file does not load concurrently with other files.
As Google places high value on load time for Search Engine Optimisation (SEO), I really cannot accept that Pageline Framework is going backwards with load time.
For the record, 2.2.5 is faster than when I briefly tried 2.2.1 but still slower than 2.1.6.
Request to the community
It is possible my 2.2.5 upgrade (and 2.2.1) has not installed correctly. If anyone reading this have 2.2.5 installed and their website is responding to menu clicks instantly, rather than non-responsive for a second and then start loading, please reply with your site URL and I would love to test out your site.
Question to Pageline
Are you working on a future Pageline Framework upgrade that may reduce the load time of 2.2.5? If not, would you take load performance in to consideration in your future Framework upgrades please.
Thank you for reading my long post.
(My original post on 'slow performance of Pageline Framework 2.2.1 can be found here - )
Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:39 AM
If your server is setup properly it will write a static css file instead of using a rewrite.
Posted 26 August 2012 - 12:00 PM
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Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:49 PM
Also it is NOT a wordpress turbo feature
It is NOT a php band aid.
As I stated above (twice) It enabled PageLines Framework to write a static css file instead of using a dynamic URL.
If you don't want to enable it, that's up to you.
Posted 26 August 2012 - 04:04 PM
Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:12 PM
The css file mode was added in 2.2.2. Adding it to 2.1.6 will make absolutly zero difference.
Thanks for this info and the link to the change log.
Also it is NOT a wordpress turbo feature / It is NOT a php band aid.
Again, thank you for the clarification.
Here is my thinking so far... I have been with Pageline since PlatformPro. I have upgraded as soon as Framework came out. The road so far has been bumpy... slide features not working properly or widget content moving or Custom CSS not working anymore, etc., I am aware that Framework is much more then a theme and there are 'overheads' that goes along with it.
In July, when I upgraded to Framework 2.2.1, the site slowed down by several seconds (see link in my first post, if anyone is interested in details). So, I waited for a month after Framework 2.2.5 was released and watched this forum for feedback from other users. And when I thought everyone was happy, I tried installing 2.2.5. For whatever reason, for me, 2.2.5 is still slower then 2.1.6. I note from the change log a lot of work has gone into 2.2 and lot of core files have been changed. No doubt to improve the security and add functionality. That's really fantastic that you guys bring out revisions so frequently. Kudos to you!
I have learned a lot from other people having issues with their websites and most importantly, I got heads up on what to expect from a particular Framework upgrade. What I am saying is that I have become a little cautious of Pageline updates. That should set the tone of where I am coming from as I reply below.
As I stated above (twice) It enabled PageLines Framework to write a static css file
I know you guys are busy and most of Framework clients just want a solution. I am creating and maintaining sites for paid clients and I have to do what I can to keep those sites going the best I can. So, I need to know the pros and cons to what I do. Q1. Simon, why is
mod not part of the standard Framework 2.2.5 if it provides such a performance boost? Like you said, maybe it only works on some servers? Maybe it reduces some functionalities? Maybe it will change the annual migration patterns of some birds in Alaska!
define( 'LESS_FILE_MODE', true );
I am just trying to make an informed decision about modifying the php. That is why I am coming back here asking more questions. You can see that I have invested a reasonable amount of time with my original post and subsequent replies. I would really appreciate it if all my questions are answered so that: (a) I can make an informed decision; and ( other users who might read this post in the future might also benefit from your input.
Danny implied that my server was not up to the task of Framework 2.2.5 with his reply
I will ask the same question again, Q2. What is a recommended web server specification for Pageline Framework 2.2.x? to achieve faster performance than 2.1.x?
we are unable to create peak performance products when people use poor hosting plans or packages.
Pingdom is pretty unreliable
When I originally had the issue with Framework 2.2.1, Simon introduced me to Pingdom tools ( ). Before posting my original screen shots, I have tried several times and it seems to provide me with reasonably consistent results.
Indeed your site load fast but I cannot see the "pagelines-compiled-css-1341565397" (106.7KB) in your Pingdom result. Also, your site does not appear to have menu so I cannot test the response I mentioned earlier. Q3. I wonder if you know of any other site that is running unmodified (straight out of the box) Pageline Framework 2.2.5? I have a pretty fast server and I was surprised to hear that Danny thought my server might be an issue.
Other then trying to convey why I keep asking questions, my main reason for this reply is to find out from you guys what are the down side of modifying php as Simon suggested? If any? If there are no down side, will Framework 2.2.6 come out with the php modified so that it will be static for everyone? I would really appreciate an open and detailed reply that can assist me to make my decision.
PS. I seem to be missing the [Reject] button from this post? I can only see [Accept] button today.
Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:25 PM
Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:46 PM
I removed the reject button
Oh, I see. I thought I had to reject or the post does not go red to get support people's attention. Obviously, I was wrong since you replied back to me very quickly.
we decided that it should be for advanced users only
Okay... that makes sense. This is a BIG news for any Framework users. If I am understanding you correctly, I think everybody would want to try this mod on their sites and if they cannot improve their site's performance, they would want to upgrade to a new hosting plan or to a different hosting company! Do you have a page listing 'performance tips' for Framework users? I started wondering what else I might not know and missing out, if this php mod was only revealed to me when I asked. Is there any other tips Simon?
My blog uses 2.2.5 and has a menu btw
Simon, again this site is amazingly fast but I cannot see "pagelines-compiled-css-1341565397" (106.7KB) on this site. I assume you did your php mod to this site?
Simon, what is a recommended web server specification for Pageline Framework 2.2.x? to achieve faster performance than 2.1.x?
And, do you have another site that is running on standard Framework 2.2.5 with menu that is on a fast server Danny mentioned?
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